The Long Game of Friendship: What It Takes to Stay and Build a Lineage of Witnessing

In this second episode of Kitchen Table Sauce, I'm joined by Madison Gregoris to talk about friendship as a lineage of witnessing. We share everything we've learned in our 20-year friendship: the kind of friendship that spans decades, mothers, grandmothers, and continents. The kind that doesn’t just survive collapse but transforms through it. This is a story about the long game of love — about women who refuse to let eachother lose themselves, who hold each other through burnout, grief, laughter, and the wild work of becoming.

We’ll explore what it means to witness one another through every version of ourselves — the shiny ones, the collapsing ones, the ones who can’t stop overachieving, and the ones who finally fall apart. 

We’ll wander through:
🌶 how women build lineages of care that outlast chaos and distance
🌶 what friendship looks like when it becomes a spiritual practice
🌶 how to recognize when you’re “disastering” alone and let someone in
🌶 the Great Restructuring — when friendship meets adulthood and boundaries
🌶 why being witnessed is one of the most healing, sacred things we can offer

So pull up a chair. Bring your mess, your miracles, your people. This one’s for the friendships that save us — slowly, imperfectly, and for good.